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Warren Graham asked:


Some months ago, I wrote an article (published on this site) entitled “A Sub-Prime Economy” and I urge anyone reading the following piece to revisit that material, both to see what was wrong about it, and what was right. In it, I predicted that the trigger for financial trouble would come either in the form of an overheating economy, which would drive up interest rates and end the era of easy money, pushing marginal companies over the cliff, or, alternatively, that a weakening economy would tighten up lending standards, starving weak companies by blocking their resource to working capital, and increasing business failures. I was wrong.

While even the chronically optimistic must surely now admit that there is a problem in the capital markets, and that it has, in fact, spilled over into equities, the fuse has been lit not by either of the phenomena described, but rather, by the proverbial “tail wagging the dog.” That is to say that while the fundamentals of the “Global Economy”—more about that hackneyed phrase below—remain strong, they threaten to be compromised by an absence of access to credit, hitherto provided by hedge funds and private equity sources, with seemingly endless pools of easy money looking for a home.

Can it be only a few weeks ago that the indomitable cheerleaders for the markets (who, by some magical coincidence, are, for the most part, individuals engaged in the business of selling securities) were telling us that we need not fear, because the world was “awash in oceans of liquidity?” Now, central banks worldwide are intervening almost around the clock to provide needed liquidity to credit markets.



As for this author, I thought I saw the worm turn about two weeks ago, when, in the face of tremendous (and rather scary) volatility in both directions, the folks at Goldman Sachs trotted out Abby Joseph Cohen to tell us that the bull was alive and well, thank you very much. I had forgotten about Abby Joseph Cohen, and last remember her telling us in March, 2000 (the last hurrah for the internet bubble) that that, well, the bull was alive and well. Ms. Cohen has, to the best of my knowledge, never suggested publicly that the market might {gasp!} go down.

Further evidence of a change in mood can be found by anyone who is a regular watcher of CNBC. Gone are most of the smiles, jokes and general bonhomie that could always be found when the expectations were of an endlessly rising market. Gone is that most annoying “cowbell” signal which rang at CNBC to herald any announcement of note in the business world. And although CNBC is supposed to be a source of business and market news, any regular viewer of its programming can have no doubt about the inherent love for bulls and loathing of bears exhibited by its on-air talent. After all, just as sellers of securities want us to think that the markets will always go up, CNBC’s producers understand well that broad, general interest in the markets (and hence, higher ratings) increase dramatically when the markets are rising. But today, the featured guest of CNBC before the U.S. Markets opened for trading was none other than Wilbur Ross, the unchallenged Dean of Distress. Wilbur is an icon in the bankruptcy/restructuring/turnaround world, and, speaking for myself (I have spent over 25 years in this field), I readily acknowledge that Wilbur has probably forgotten more about this subject than I will ever know.

And yet, his observations on the current turmoil in the markets were succinct and remarkably simple. He noted that: “for the past two years, consumers have spent more than they have earned, and the government has spent more than it has earned (sic).” He pointed out the obvious: that such a situation cannot continue indefinitely. He attributed some of the recent difficulties to what he called the two most dangerous words in the English Language: “Financial Engineering,” which, according to Ross means that “someone has figured out a way to underprice risk.” Ross noted that many people had relied entirely, and to their detriment, on ratings agencies and bought products that were designed to sell a “risk ignorant rate of return.” According to him, such a practice “always has a bad end.”

Yet, the purveyors of promised profits will, undoubtedly, continue to tell us that this is a mere “blip on the radar screen,” and that the indestructible “Global Economy” will save the day. If one has a memory that reaches back to before yesterday afternoon (not such a given in an industry whose “captains” are often “twenty-somethings”), one might easily substitute the words “Global Economy” for the words “New Economy” that was so prevalent during the internet bubble. One might also easily realize that the recent and massive spate of private equity deals, in which funds acquire public companies, and finance their acquisitions with either low-cost loans or investor capital secured by assets of the target company are (not-so) strangely reminiscent of the leverage buy-out boom of the late 1980’s, so well-exhibited in the film Wall Street. Those deals certainly came to a bad end.

The difference now, the starry-eyed optimists tell us, is that the defaults in these deals are much more difficult to trigger. In fact, some of these private equity deals have provisions in which, if the borrower cannot pay, in cash, it has the option of merely issuing more stock to the lender. That system works fine, until and unless the borrower is in genuine difficulty. It may not be in default, because it retains the right to issue more stock (of ever-increasing worthlessness) to its lender. So what has been accomplished? The risk of financial disaster has merely been transferred from the borrower to the investors in the private equity deal. To my knowledge, nobody has, as yet, figured out a mechanism to generate “junk bond” level returns with “treasury instrument” credit quality. And yet, the investors in many of these vehicles have somehow allowed themselves to be bamboozled into thinking that someone had. And they were willing to pay astronomical fees for it. Now, of course, many investors are running for the exits, shocked at having actually lost capital! And the “Financial Engineers” are begging the Federal Reserve to ride in to the rescue and reduce the Fed Funds rate. Who would benefit by such action? Well, the stock market would likely go up, at least for awhile. Is the Fed supposed to be in the business of propping up the stock market? On the other hand, there would almost certainly be run on the already battered U.S. Dollar. The Sub-Prime mess would not be solved by any such action, as it represents much more than a problem of less than stellar borrowers. It is mostly a problem of declining housing values in a system where there was precious little equity from the buyers in the first place. Borrowers who could not afford conventional mortgages bought homes, upon which they put little or no money down, and took on mortgages at teaser rates, which are now adjusting to market.

So who are the victims? Not the lenders. They got their fees and their points. And they got paid again when they “securitized” their loan holdings and sold them on a market newly created and packaged by other “Financial Engineers.” Not really the borrowers, either, who got houses without having put up any equity, and paid (for awhile) low-interest mortgages instead of rent, for a place to live which they could not otherwise have afforded.

But if the Fed plays the role of the cavalry, or the Government embarks upon yet another bail-out plan (anyone remember the Savings and Loan crisis?), we KNOW who the victims will be: the taxpayers. We will be called upon to save the banks and the hedge funds from the consequences of their “Financial Engineering.”

The “Global Economy” may well be strong, but the U.S. Economy is two-thirds driven by the true American vice: rabid consumerism. Once the credit cards are nearly all maxed out (and accruing interest at, in some cases, over 30%), and the middle class is no longer able to access its non-existent home equity (whether because of declining values or tightening credit standards), consumer spending MUST suffer. The first hints of this are coming from profit warnings from Wal-Mart, Home Depot and Macy’s.

I am certainly a believer in the resilience and ultimate success of this Country, and we will somehow grow ourselves out of this mess, too, in the long run. But for the shorter term, all the protestations of Government spin doctors and Wall Street salesmen posing as analysts will not change the simple truth: The Sub-Prime Economy is upon us.

Warren R. Graham

Copyright 2007





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December 27th, 2008
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Danny Schechter asked:


If there’s a word that is universally invoked in the world of finance, it’s “transparency.” The word comes to us from the 16th century with the connotation of “shining through,” The idea is simple. Transparency is about being able to see what is going on and to have key practices disclosed. Without that, it is believed, financial markets can’t function because of a lack of trust and clear rules that all the players adhere to. It is a market fundamental, a primary rule of principle.

Or so you would think.

When it began, subprime lending was even not a term that most people outside the financial markets understood. (By 2007, the American Dialect Society would call it the most used term of the year.) The Wikipedia would describe it this way:

Subprime lending, also called B-paper, near-prime, or second chance lending, is the practice of making loans to borrowers who do not qualify for the best market interest rates because of their deficient credit history. The phrase also refers to paper taken on property that cannot be sold on the primary market, including loans on certain types of investment properties and certain types of self-employed individuals. Subprime lending is risky for both lenders and borrowers due to the combination of high interest rates, poor credit history, and adverse financial situations usually associated with subprime applicants.

In early February 2008, almost a decade after the birth of what would become the subprime industry, the Securities and Exchange Commission, the nominal regulators of financial markets, found the courage to admit that they didn’t really know what was going on in their multi-billion-dollar securities market.

They announced an investigation.

One of their “enforcers” explained: “The big question is, who knew what when, and what did they disclose to the marketplace?” These were the words of Cheryl Scarboro, an associate director in the SEC’s enforcement division in charge of the subprime working group. This working group, composed of one hundred lawyers, which seems to have only begun working after the scandal erupted, is investigating how banks, credit rating firms, and lenders valued and disclosed complex mortgage-backed securities.

Reuters reported they were looking into three areas: “the securitization process, the origination process nd the retail area. Insider trading, which is one of the SEC’s highest priorities, is also a key area.”

Bear in mind that they are not operating in the interests of borrowers who were victimized by deceptive loans, but inquiring whether shareholders - i.e., investors - were kept in the dark through inadequate disclosures.

Their scope is narrow: “We do have to work very hard at bringing the right cases,” says SEC enforcement division chief Linda Chatman Thomsen. “We work on the most ‘impactful’ cases. … At the end of the day we have to be about deterrence.”

Deterrence? That was a concept born in the nuclear age to prevent/deter war. How it’s relevant after the collapse of the industry itself was not addressed. What is there now to deter?

This SEC group was reportedly “talking with” but not coordinating with oversight bodies like the Federal Reserve, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, and Office of Thrift Supervision. Is it significant that the FBI, which also announced its own investigation into criminal conduct by mortgage firms, is not on this list!

If the regulators who should be in the know about these practices are not, it’s not surprising that most of the media and the public share this plight.

The whole area is murky. Even George Miller, the Executive Director of the industry’s own trade association and lobby group the American Securitization Forum, told CNBC as this investigation was announced that one of the reforms his organization was advocating was “taking steps to enhance where necessary the transparency in the marketplace.” Note the qualifying phrase “where necessary.”

While reporting from the Forum’s meeting in Las Vegas, CNBC’s correspondent joked they had “gambled away our economy.” Ha, ha. The Forum has not always been a joke. When the Treasury Department announced, with great fanfare, a program to help distressed homeowners in December 2007, it was widely reported that this industry group had actually written it. The plan offered no help to

families facing foreclosure.

They also played a very powerful role in holding off government scrutiny. They were the influential behind-the-scenes player rationalizing the industry and its exotic derivative financial instruments. Their website, which lists their impressive membership list of big banks and funds, describes its work this way: “The American Securitization Forum (ASF) is a broadly-based professional forum through which participants in the U.S. securitization market can advocate their common interests on important legal, regulatory and market practice issues.”

According to the New York Times, the Forum’s Las Vegas Meeting could be considered a “predator’s ball.” The newspaper did not remind readers that 16 years earlier this same phraseology was used widely about an earlier scandal on Wall Street. This account was published on August 15, 1991:

They call it the Creditors’ Ball: a hundred or so bankruptcy lawyers, bankers and investors, sipping cocktails and feasting on shrimp in the Hamptons in an unabashed celebration of the impoverished 1990’s.

This party of the well-paid, the well-connected, and the well-coiffed is quickly becoming the social event of the bankruptcy set, just as the Predators’ Ball was a highlight of Wall Street’s social calendar. That Beverly Hills extravaganza, sponsored by Drexel Burnham Lambert Inc., ended with the brokerage’s downfall in 1990.

So much for lessons being learned.

THE IMPORTANCE OF DISCLOSURE

At least now, the industry’s public face and the regulators have come around to agreeing with a growing army of critics that inadequate disclosure was at the root of the problem, i.e., a lack of transparency.

And not only in the housing industry!

Well-known banks had also been admitting a little, while hiding a lot. When the finance ministers from the Group of the 7 top industrialized countries met in Tokyo on February 9, 2008, they issued a call to banks to fully disclose their losses from the subprime meltdown. The German Minister Peer Steinbruck said that these write-offs could reach a whopping $400 billion, four times previous estimates.

It must be noted that just a month earlier, in late December, Wall Street firms paid out more record bonuses to the bankers who had made them a vast fortune.

Why the secrecy, why the lack of disclosure?

A top-level corporate reputation consultant, who asked to remain anonymous but who has worked on the issue, summed it up for me in one word: greed. “They were making so much money that they didn’t have time for due diligence or transparency. It was just pouring in.”

Yet, oddly enough, one of the industry’s big traders was still not remorseful. “We need to step back and take a breather,” John Devaney told the New York Times. “I don’t think there is anything fundamentally wrong.”

No one asked him about the findings of the Senate’s Joint Economic Committee:

Approximately $71 billion in housing wealth will be directly destroyed through the process of foreclosures.

More than $32 billion in housing wealth will be indirectly destroyed by the spillover effect of foreclosures, which reduce the value of neighboring properties.

States and local governments will lose more than $917 million in property tax revenue as a result of the destruction of housing wealth caused by subprime foreclosures.

No one thought about that at the beginning of the subprime boom either.



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Tried to sell some and buy some today between 3PM and 4PM and the program would not allow me to sell and consequently I could not buy either? What gives?
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I have been having trouble logging on cnbc contest page to view my portfolio and to answer the daily questions? Is there anybody out there that is having this problem?

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as a part of the cnbc’s million dollar contest there are trivia qestions each day. you have to wach the vidio to find the question does any one know the qusestion or the answer?

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December 16th, 2008
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Grant Deken asked:


The second I heard the words “Mobile Marketing” I thought of the spam box on my email, full of offers for free Ipods and get-a-way trips. My initial reaction to the concept of mobile marketing was quite negative and the future was looking bleak.

At last though, I thought, could there be a way to make mobile marketing valuable for consumers? I brain stormed a few examples and want to see what people think about using SMS in marketing strategies.

1) Airline Companies - This was the first example I thought of: Airliners. Southwest paved the way for paperless E-ticketing. Using text messages to notify customers that they can check in or perhaps sending a text about cheap rates in their area could boost revenues for the airliners and at the same save consumers money.

2) Ticketmaster.com - Receive a text message when tickets go on sale for that band you’ve been dying to see. I can’t tell you how many times Rush has been to Jacksonville and I missed out on the show because I forgot! If I had been reminded to get those tickets I could have seen Neal Pert rock a ten minute drum solo!

3) CNBC - Text me the opening numbers of the NYSE, DOW, and NASDAQ. Be the wise guy at work who knows everything before everyone else. Sound smart and look good for clients and bosses and be the king of the water cooler. Oh yeah, CNBC can throw a few ads up - Not to mention grow their branding efforts.

Maybe mobile marketing isn’t all bad? Maybe it’s just change that I was afraid of. I hope that ad executives and marketing officers will stay creative and remember that the best way to gain and keep consumers under their guise is to keep providing them will good value.



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William Smith asked:


If you tell people that you play the market, they’re likely to respond in one of two ways - either they want you to give them investment advice, or they think that they’re experts and they want to give you investment advice.

Today, investment advice is everywhere, but investors should beware - free investment advice is usually worth exactly what you pay for it - nothing!

Using a Stock Broker for Investment Advice

All too often, stock brokers are trained salespeople, more so than trained financial professionals. Before you act on any investment advice from a stock broker, make sure you understand how the broker is paid. Do you pay him a fee specifically to give you investment advice?

If so, does he have any other incentives to advise you to buy a certain stock or financial product? Stock brokers are legally required to disclose any conflicts of interest when giving investment advice, so make sure you ask.

Or, if you’re not paying your broker specifically for investment advice, you need to ask him if he receives a higher commission from the product he’s recommending you buy than from other, comparable products.

Using CNBC for Investment Advice

CNBC is a 24-hour business news channel, and throughout the course of day, dozens of stock market pundits appear on screen to give investment advice. To disclose all possible conflicts of interest, CNBC displays an on-screen graphic detailing if the pundit owns any of the investments he’s advising you buy, or if his family or firm do.

However, the biggest risk in using CNBC for recommendations is that much of the investment advice is distilled into minute sound bytes. This results in an incomplete picture, in which you may not fully understand the pros and cons of a given stock or other investment vehicle.

Using Magazines for Investment Advice

There are numerous magazines that dispense investment advice. The best among them are probably SmartMoney and Forbes.

SmartMoney is geared towards somewhat less sophisticated investors, however, Wall Street pros can read and enjoy the publication without it insulting their intelligence. The good news is that SmartMoney offers in-depth profiles of many stocks and other investments in each issue.

It is also faithfully honest about its best and worst picks, and it routinely reviews how its investment selections have performed over the past year.

Forbes is slightly different type of publication, with a somewhat more affluent and conservative audience. While SmartMoney is geared towards upper middle class investors with a few hundred grand in their 401k’s, Forbes is more for the executive-level investor with a few hundred grand in annual contributions to the Republican Party.

This does not mean, however, that Forbes is not a good publication. It does devote a full 1/3 of its pages to investment advice, and while its investments articles are not as in-depth as SmartMoney’s, they are well-written and concise - and sometimes that’s just as good.

Using the Internet for Investment Advice

There are numerous online sources of investment advice. Yahoo! Finance publishes articles and relays analyst opinion. TheStreet.com has many premium products that give comprehensive recommendations. But easily the most famous website for investment advice is MorningStar (morningstar.com).

MorningStar is best known for its mutual fund reviews, but it also publishes research reports on individual stocks. However, MorningStar has come under increased pressure lately as many of its picks have failed to pan out.

MorningStar assigns stocks ratings of one to five stars, and critics charge that the company will give a bad stock a good rating, and then as the share price falls, MorningStar upgrades the stock - saying it’s fallen too far and is now a great bargain.

The problem? The stock sometimes continues to fall. In the case of certain stocks like Microsoft (MSFT) and eBay (EBAY), MorningStar may soon have to create a sixth star to give them as they continue to plummet in value.

The message is - beware of all investment advice. Get your recommendations from multiple sources, always check the advisor’s track record, and be wary of any potential conflicts of interest. And the next time your brother-in-law tries to give you some investment advice, refer back to the first paragraph of this article.



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December 10th, 2008

last night Jim cramer spent a lot of time touting the GM prefered and Ford perfered stocks.These were mentioned in a previous post so I thought I would update.He said it is stupid to buy the F or GM common stock as it is worthless.The symbols he liked were GPM and F-S.He said the Ford pf has different symbols depending on where you look it up…These are already up in the AM on recomendation.You should get opportunity to sell these today if you bought when originally mentioned.

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Well Monday was a bloodbath but even then the home stocks declined less than average;showing relative strength.Today KB homes, mentioned in previous post, is up 13% and is now up about that much from nov 26 post.The etf and most of the other stocks in the sector are higher.I note that last night on CNBC ;Doug Kass, a noted short seller who made much money this year by betting against the home sector,…said that the homebuilding stocks would be one of the first sectors to turn as the economy recovers, and he had changed to bullish on the stocks.

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